Hello, everyone. Philip from Nyctodream here.

I didn't think I would make a second post about this fiasco, but recently, Jonochrome had made a second response titled "No... I've been taking the coward's way out.". When I first saw this, I was genuinely worried of what this could've been. Could he have actually done something that could be classified under the official pedophilia and grooming definition by Oxford? Did he manipulate Emi into saying her response when the reality was much darker? Was there more that Fulcrum didn't share or know about? It was none of that. Rather, the second response was just a redundant and overly dramatised rehash of his first response, which I thought was fine enough. This response to me, didn't need to exist. It contains information the public, for me, didn't need to know. It mostly came off as a vent post, rather than an actual response. Now, I understand if you want to vent your issues out, but in a post that you make out for it to be an actual response for your predicament, ON TWITTER, no less, is not a very good idea.

Now, unlike the previous post I made on this, I'll dissect this post. I won't dissect EVERYTHING, but the parts I feel are important. To start with...

"No... I've been taking the coward's way out.

You SHOULD hold me accountable for what I did. But I'm not going to submit to the false narrative and keep hiding behind a filter of fear and self-loathing.

Everything I said in my response was the truth."

Yea, and I thought that was all everyone needed to know. Unless, maybe there was indeed more shady shit going on, which your second response showed none of.

"I've always believed there's no reason to start dating anyone unless I feel like I could realistically spend the rest of my life with them, because anything less than that is setting up for heartache. I've also been raised in a Christian household, and I don't believe in sex before marriage. As a result, I didn't date for 20 years, and I'm a virgin to this day.

My first relationship was with a girl one or two years younger than me. I'll call her Ann for convenience. It was my first time having feelings for anyone, and I didn't know how to process those feelings. I got love confused with lust. That's not to say I didn't care about Ann, but my confused emotions were a major factor in the relationship falling through.
Ann and I had lackluster communication because we ONLY knew how to speak to each other romantically, and not as friends. I learned from that experience and made the decision never to follow the feeling I identified as lust again. Marriage is too tremendous of a commitment NOT to be with a partner you can talk to comfortably every day without get bored of each other."

At first, when I read this... I was confused as to why he brought this up. Like, what did this so-called Ann have to do with this? But looking back now, maybe it has something to do with his "dating philosophy" as I call it, about how he would only date someone because of their personality? Which I guess explains why he fell for Emi, but I still think just saying "We were dating because we had a lot in common, etc. etc." was already a good enough explanation. Sure, it does not justify dating a girl 7 years younger than you, a 21 year old, but that was explanation was still better. And I think mentioning the "confused with love and lust" thing got you into more trouble, because people are now exaggerating this as some kind of proof for pedophilia when it's not. You even said lust had nothing to do in this next paragraph.

"As such, lust played no part in what happened next. Emi and I stumbled upon each other online and quickly became best friends. We got along so well that when she was 14 and I was 21, we hadn't explicitly committed, but were at least open to the possibility of being lifelong companions. I'm not trying to downplay my actions, because this alone is unacceptable. But this was the whole nature of our relationship.

The reason I'm not a groomer is because grooming, by definition, has sexual intent. Nothing about our relationship was sexually motivated. We never sexted, and we never exchanged nudes or anything inappropriate. Yes, the topic of sex came up in passing conversation, but NOT as a consideration between us."

I do agree. Like I criticised before, you dating her or entertaining the idea that you two would be in a relationship when she wasn't 18-20 yet, is irresponsible and weird. ESPECIALLY for 5-6 years. I don't think you are a pedophile, groomer, child predator, or think you should be banished from the internet, but you are wrong for this, and I am glad you are taking accountability for your actions and didn't input any harm onto her.

"We never met in person, but even if we'd gotten that chance, sex was not on our minds. The entire time we'd spoken to one another was through text, so our plan was to judge if we still had the same chemistry in person, and for our families to meet each other as well."

Gonna go a bit off topic here. This is good relationship advice for anyone dating online and haven't met each other yet in real life. If you meet someone online and plan to have a serious relationship with, it's recommended you only take things seriously when you've physically been together for some time.

"That said, as I've admitted, I did unintentionally stifle her relationship experience. I told her time and time again that I didn't want her to feel any obligation to me, but I realized far too late that she probably subconsciously did anyway. I really DID believe we were so compatible that I was potentially saving her from the same heartbreak I felt, even though I acknowledge how shitty that sounds in retrospect. Intentionally or not, it was completely irresponsible for me to put the idea of a long-term relationship in her head when I did."

Completely agree with that last sentence.

"By extension, I'm not a pedophile, because pedophilia is a mental illness that causes someone to have a sexual attraction to children. I have no such attraction. If anything, it's the opposite. I'm an introvert with a huge extended family, and there are enough loud, snotty, high-maintenance kids in it for me to know I'd be MISERABLE if I had kids of my own.

But if I did, I would still do everything in my power to protect them from harm. I've deleted messages from young teenagers on the Discord server that could clue them in to their location and told them to be more careful. I've banned users who were potential threats or even consistently made posts that were borderline NSFW. If I didn't have the fullest intent to respect Emi's best wishes, I never would have instigated anything more than friendship."

Honetly, I genuinely liked that you did that. You removed and banned people who posted potentially threatening posts or messages on your server, and removed people who could be vulnerable to those kinds of things. Good on you for doing that, Jon.

Now, I'm gonna have to skip the next few parts because I don't have much to say about them or I don't think would serve much context with what I am about to say next, but here is something that almost a LOT of people were on about during the Twitter fiasco.

"Some important context in this is that I'm on the autism spectrum. Social conventions are not intuitive to me like they are to most people. Again, I knew e-dating a minor was, at the very least, a sensitive idea generally "frowned upon" in society, but I legitimately failed to understand why it would be wrong MORALLY as long as we treated each other with the utmost respect and nothing illegal took place. I didn't know any better the entire time we were together."

This is the part where a LOT of people said he was using this as an excuse for pedophilia... Which this isn't. It's not an excuse for pedophilia because... Well, THIS ISN'T PEDOPHILIA... And next, I don't think the context was understood correctly. You see, he meant to say that he just didn't really know how or why this was morally wrong, and that it was simply frowned upon and/or he tries to say something that seems bad when he doesn't try to. This isn't a great excuse or reason for him misunderstanding this, but he did not use it as an excuse to "sexually commit to children" which he didn't even.

But one thing I do like to say is... Jon, why did you bring this up? Again, it's probably the venting thing that got in the way, but I felt you didn't need to include this. Similar to the whole thing with "confusing love and lust" just allowed people to over exaggerate this as "AAAHHH HE USED AUTISM AS AN EXCUSE FOR PEDO!" or what have you. Really, just saying you simply didn't know back then was... Again, not the most valid excuse or reason, but it would've been better than this.

Again, gonna skip a few more paragraphs...

"We settled the issue in private, went our separate ways, and haven't spoken much since then, although we're on good terms. We thought that was the end of it. Still, in the back of our minds, we always knew it was possible that our relationship would be leaked to the public by one of my old friends, because I got too excited back in those days and ran my mouth to the people I thought I could trust."

Let's focus on the former half. This, this right here is why I think this entire shit show didn't even need to happen. At least not in this scale. They were on good terms, they were fine, nobody was directly or intentionally hurt, things were FINE. At least, based on the evidence we do know. If there was evidence of such... Well, more on that later.

Again, gonna be skipping a lot of the next paragraphs because I have nothing to say about them...

"I hate this. If I could do everything over with the knowledge I have now, I would. But I can't.

And yet, in a weird way, I'm grateful.

Fulcrum, if you're reading this, I don't know which one of my old friends you are, and I don't care. You're a bad source of information considering you thought I "insist on remaining in the FNAF community" when that's clearly not true, and you had a "guilty until proven innocent" attitude toward accusing me of being a child predator, which is a HUGE fucking accusation that you have no hard evidence for. If you did, you would have shared it by now. Fuck you for trying to ruin my life based on conjecture. I've even felt pressured to stop talking to some of my best friends, just because a few are under 18 and you spouted bullshit that I'm a risk to them. I've never asked, but I'm sure they, too, could attest to the fact that I've never made any advances on them and have never made them uncomfortable. I'm not that kind of guy.

I don't agree with HOW you called me out.

But the fact is, you were holding onto knowledge that was potentially concerning for people, and you did the right thing in sharing it. I needed to be called out.

Thank you for giving me the push I needed to realize I'm severely mentally under-diagnosed and need more intensive therapy than what I've been getting."

This will have a LOT I need to address about what I feel about Fulcrum later.

The rest of the twitlonger is basically him saying that he is getting therapy ever since this fiasco started, his family has been supportive of him, that it's fine if you don't want to support him, and that he wouldn't make a mistake THIS bad.

So, yea... In conclusion... I can kind of understand why he made this post, but if you ask me, besides the update of how his therapy thing is going or what he thought of Fulcrum's way of exposing him... This was unnecessary. Like, this is a redundant, overly dramatised, version of his first good enough response. There was so many things he said that ended up getting him into even more trouble, whether he deserved it or not.

And... No, folks. I still do not think he is a pedophile or a groomer and especially not a child predator. A pedophile is someone who sexually, I repeat, SEXUALLY has attractions to minors. Grooming is where you try to gain someone's trust, manipulate them into liking you, befriend them, and then sexually, SEXUALLY, take advantage of them or abuse them. Child predator is in the name itself. It's when you actively go and try to find children, or minors in general, and do... God knows what with them. Google agrees with that, Wikipedia agrees with that, the multiple search engines I decided to look up on agree with that, the Oxford Dictionary agrees with that. If you're saying I'm wrong and that I'm going by MY definition, first off, I'm going by what's OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED out there. And if I'm wrong, you are also saying Wikipedia is wrong, Google is wrong, The multiple search engines I used are wrong, and the people who researched, checked, confirmed, and posted that information out there are wrong too. If you mean to tell me that, I find it genuinely hard to believe you, really. Because, while yes, false information CAN exist in those areas, if I had so MANY search results saying what I'm saying, and found very few, if any, that say that romantically dating a minor is pedophilic grooming in the FIRST FEW PAGES, can this really be considered wrong??? I mean, there's a really tiny chance it is possible but I find it about as likely as us being able to travel within faster than the speed of light the following day.

Now, that doesn't mean I think dating a minor with a 7 year age gap is okay by any means, oh hell no it is NOT. While I don't see any genuine harm, I still think it's not a good idea by any stretch of the word. And no, being a teen (ex. 16) dating a child (ex. 9) isn't much better either. Though, I guess THAT is slightly more understandable? Still not good, though. And if you DID have sexual relations... I think you deserve a free trip to a prison ward and a psychiatric compound and stay away from the Internet for a few years, decades, or forever even. Get yourself rehabilitated before you try redeeming yourself. Assuming that's even possible... Again, I don't know if pedophilia is an actual mental illness or if it can even be cured, and I haven't had the care to look that one up.

Just my little recommendation, if you are a minor like me, date someone who's 2 years older or younger than you. Like, if you are 16 like me, you are good to date people 14-18, but anyone older or younger than that WILL cause issues, ESPECIALLY if it goes public and gains attention. If you are an adult and you are in love with someone underaged, I recommend this; you CAN be close friends if you want, but do not entertain the idea of a relationship until they turn 21 or above. But at that point, you might as well find someone else since people can change over time.

Listen to me, it sounds like I'm ending this post when I have not even touched upon my thoughts on Fulcrum. So, here we are.

So, first off... There WAS one thing the second response did that made me realise something... Could Fulcrum... Have only done this out of spite for Jonochrome and not to actually help Emi? Now, I'm in NO WAY saying this is 100% factual. I'll just give you my reasons as to why I think this and you can make the judgement yourself. Now I questioned THE WAY Fulcrum did it, and WHY they did it. Like, okay, the WHY is surely obvious, Jon needed to be called out for doing an irresponsible mistake like this. But when you check his Twitlonger, they stated that the thing that made them post this NOW and not sooner or later, because he... Planned to stay in the community? Which, if you knew Jonathan, like, at ALL, you would know it's the EXACT opposite. He PLANNED to leave the fnaf community and Flumpty behind ever since he cancelled One Week at Flumpty's since MID 2015, that was SIX YEARS AGO... And he's been mentioning that over and over ever since! So, why is this your reason? Did you actually mean to say this because you are mad his popularity rose again because Flumpty's 3 came out? What did you expect? One of the original good fnaf fan games having a third installment is something people have been wanting for 6 years, did you expect this game to not get viral the minute it came out? ESPECIALLY since this was first game in the initiative? Or was it because you WANTED to get it out during Jon's rise in popularity? If that's case... Why didn't you just say that? And why did you word it like you were heavily implying he's some kind of vile creature or monster or what have you? Sure, you didn't outright SAY he was a pedophile, phrases like

"the point of this is to try and make it safer for everyone, and minors. Don't go attacking Scott over this. He absolutely had no way of knowing WHO Jonochrome really is."

"This man should not be praised at all. and i hope this helps people see him for what he really is, and why he should be removed all together from any community he has a high stance in."

Makes it feel like you ARE pissed at him for committing something like pedophilia.

And again, there's the fact that this drama has, at best, caused Jon to seek therapy a hell of a lot sooner (which was already an inevitability because he mentioned that during the Scott Cawthon drama... Wow I mentioned that again), and at worst, did more harm than good. Emi was bombarded with people forcing her to feel something she doesn't, people blaming her for Jon's situation, people blaming Jon for being something he isn't, and the community being more torn than it is. And if Jon was a pedophile or a groomer... Where's the evidence for it? And why didn't you show it sooner?

Now, again, NONE of this is 100% proof Fulcrum did this out of pure spite alone, or that they shouldn't have done any this. I don't objectively think they had bad intentions when doing this. Maybe they were just bad at wording this? Maybe they themselves didn't know much better? I dunno. These were just things I found a bit weird and fishy, but not exactly enough for me to think that they're full of shit.

Please, do not attack ANYONE mentioned in this drama. Do not belittle anyone, do not verbally assault anyone, do not raid anyone, etc. Whether it be Jonochrome, Fulcrum, Emily, or the community. Feel free to educate people on the matter, but harassment is NEVER the way.

Jonochrome, I hope this isn't the last we see of you. If it isn't, I can't wait to see what more you have planned alongside or after Project Comet. If you are leaving temporarily, I can understand. If it's permanent, I hope you do well in life, and maybe pursue your passion in other ways. Maybe ditch the Jonochrome brand like you did with the Jonbro brand, but maybe more privately. I hope you learned your lesson, and never make a mistake like this EVER again.

Emily, I hope you do well too. Do not let people dictate how you should feel, or let them make you think it's your fault that Jon is in this situation. If you feel you should take action, take action! If you feel this is no big deal, that's fine too! Just don't let people affect you negatively.

Fulcrum, despite my skepticism I expressed just now, I still commend you for trying to keep the community safe. There are actual fucked up people out there like Mini Ladd, EDP445, Mandopony, Cosmodore, etc. who have done things that actually fall under the actual Pedophilia Groomer definitions, and I do believe that action should be taken about those people so the world would be a safer place.

And for you, please take care. All of you. Be careful with who you chat with online, ESPECIALLY if you are a minor. There are actual people who will take advantage of you, and not the very good kind to say the least.

Geez, this is the longest post I ever wrote, I seriously hope I never do this again.

Take care, everyone.

~Philip from Nycodream

Also, I should note... If you are following me or subscribing to me just for more posts or content of me responding to drama... Don't. I don't plan to make posts like this ever again. The only reason why I made this post is because... Forgive me for being personal, Jonochrome was a major inspiration for me LONG before I joined the internet under the Nightshade Creations name (which evolved to Nyctodream Creations). In 2015, he helped me be convinced that cartoon games CAN be scary thanks to One Night at Flumpty's, in 2016, he and many others inspired me to create cartoony and silly things with MS and Tux Paint with Riddle Transfer 2, in 2019-20, he and a lot of creations further fueled me to make surreal, yet simple art can be achieved thanks to Can't Food, and a lot more. He had my number 1 favourite art style ever, and it's still top 3 now.

I've gone on for long enough.