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No More Deals DLC extension pack
i wanted to make "opinion" comment a while ago, but decided to make it now.
i saw sibling redemption a while ago, when was "legacy" version of this project. it looked very interesting and attacks pretty good. but now we have this massive game, that i don't like very much.
i can make some errors in text, sorry.
Phase 1: Characters persona
usually i don't talk about characters of undertale fan games, but this is very unusual time. from first look it's something new, battles with chara and flowey not coming every day, but the more you think about it, more you ask yourself "was that fat blunt that sil used THAT big".
from start. flowey is... alive? like in genocide ending we kill him, and his "body" isn't a body anymore. but in this game he is like in neutral ending. maybe i can ignore that, but flowey personality is something... mmmm... not canon at all. flowey doesn't have emotions, and yes, he afraid of us, but he literally was SO furious about killing us, and all that he doing is speaking a lot, and attack us sometimes. woooooow. what a character. it's not smart at all, flowey is tricky little flower. even if he little afraid, chara with him. his fear on genocide route was only because he was weak and alone, but chara is here. chara. sibling, idk.
and after phase 1 he dies. AND DOESN'T APPEAR AFTER. okay, he appears in phase 4, where he became big dummy. but in most ways that's all. in second phase he became part of chara - fusion or smth, but main focus now on chara. chara is main antagonist, even if name speaks "siblingS".
chara is just a human. their personality isn't something big, just a usual look on fanon chara. and it's... not bad. they fight with us and when a silly strings connects to them, they scared.
ah yes, gaster.
HOW and of course WHY he is here. he appear only ONCE, and then boom, he disappeared. if we cut them, nothing changes. why he is here, how he is here, not one will answer. maybe he is someone, who game power to chara for phase 5 6 and 7, but again, lore doesn't says anything about it.
Phase 2: Visual
it's uhh not a fish and not a meat.
if we will remember old version, its was bad, at least second version of chara looks good.
now chara looks like... chara? their sprite pretty good, but why ._. is here. a mystery.
buttons looks good.
flowey... just default sprite... his omega version looks cursed for me, but i can accept that.
gaster is literally hand sprites from disbelief minigame.
about chara designs in different phases. they look cool as concepts, but realization is bad. phase 2 is feels not finished. like there would be a lot cooler design with vines and flowers, but all that we have... idk how to call.
phase 3 is nothing new.
phase 4 is flowey. AND big tv. is she trapped in this, or flowey is a big robot and chara in it?
that was before dlc extension. now what about the "new update".
phase 5 is literally phase 2 in design, only grey. phase 6 is phase 3? like, they t-posing again.
and phase 7. chara is ANGRY AND EDGY, THEIR HAIR ARE DISHEVELED. and ._. became =) i almost feel it was a joke from spriter, but became an actual design choice. cool.
Phase 3: Music
old version had opened ogg files, but music was very bad. i picked a good music and expirience became so much better.
here music doesn't exist.
question: WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. WHEN I SAW THAT MY DAY WAS RUINED.
THE WORST DECISION EVER.
at least picked tracks isn't bad.
but still WHYY
but not second. cuz ost that sil and other musician made is... not my favorite i would say. their style doesn't fit past osts. phase 6 is just ambience. and phase 7 that should be very epic, but in reality does not stand out.
it's very subjective, cuz my taste in music can be not same.
continuation in comments
Does this takes place After the genocide asgore fight ?
Edit: nvm i read the description
That's pog
An alternate timeline at the end of a Genocide run just after killing Asgore. Flowey and Chara fight back against the human to really show their true potential as a team!
After the king has fallen during the human's genocide route, Flowey tries to stop the human from completing their quest. Little does the human know, that Flowey planned all of this out in advance, and had his DETERMINATION at the ready.
Not only that, but Chara has also been resurrected by the human's masochistic rampage, making the last two targets in the route the two who were once adopted siblings! Can Chara and Flowey stop the genocide from ever happening again? Or will the human continue slaughter?
CREDITS
Inspiration Sources:
No More Deals by @Avranik 
, Dusttale Last Genocide by @Experiment121 
and @MaxHardcore 
, Undertale Rejuvenation by @Neo_Champion 
, Undertale Last Breath by @ZerJox, Deltarune Titans by @Rovert
Outside of fangames: Portal and Half-Life 2 from VALVE, Just Shapes and Beats by Berzerk Studio and Hollow Knight by Team Cherry
Art
Almost all the sprites are done entirely by me. The only things I do not own in this game are the original Undertale sprites, sounds and music, as well as any linked OST below. Instead, those go to the original artists. I don't take credit for them.
Music
Main Theme:
Amber's Love Was Like A Marble (Billain Remix) by Rawtekk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0eHACiDCIs
Phase 1:
Megalovania (Halloween Hack SSBU Remix) by Frakture - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMmi3cz_thE
Phase 2:
Determination (Undertale) - "Vs. Chara [MSB X Cannibal]" NITRO Remix by Nick Nitro - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRGSk74a44
Phase 3:
Gaster's Theme Remix by Kamex - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJzQKlszNWI
Phase 4:
Damage Control by Waterflame - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqJkgewX0-Q
Finale [Metal Remix] by NyxTheShield OFFICIAL - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzBspeiCakc
Afterlife OST available on SoundCloud - https://soundcloud.com/realsilmusic/sets/afterlife-ost
Playtesters
Pyrom (creator of Tales of 2 Dimensions)
S K (bug/glitch hunter, my best bug reporter)
MadeForMario (No Hit Shanghaivania TAS creator)
Xploder (FNF mod showcase YouTuber)
Warshi (creator of an upcoming AU, Kirby Determination)
MaxHardcore (DTLG creator)
_Rem (long-time follower on YouTube)
Quin (challenge runner, they're trying to beat Undertale Neutral Blindfolded if you're interested in something as crazy as that)
All names listed here have volunteered to be playtesters. None of this was done against their will.
Q&A:
Q: Is Chara a male/female in this?
A: Nothing has changed surrounding Chara's ambiguity. I originally gave players the option to assign a gender to them when a save file is created, but I ended up removing it. If you REALLY want to, you can change the "file0". Just look for "Non-binary" and enter "Male" or "Female" if you really want to be picky.
Q: How long did this take to make?
A: 310 hours for the original build, another 590 hours for Afterlife content, and another 130 hours for the balance patch. So 1,020 hours in total.
Q: Is this a sequel to anything?
A: No. This is now it's own Genocide ending in it's own timeline. My aim when developing this project was to make it as unique as possible. To base it off of something that you can consider a prequel is strange.
Q: Did you know that Merg played this?
A: ...Why, yes, of course I did.
Q: Why does this game remind me of __________? That looks so similar and directly copied!
A: Complete originality is hard in this day and age, so some points may look similar to stuff you've already played. With clear similarities, I did fact-check with the original owners and they were okay with it. If you're trying to tie together things that don't look even remotely similar to each other, then you might want to pay closer attention to details.
Q: I have found a bug/glitch/exploit. How do I report it?
A: Leave a comment, or contact me on Discord (Sil#4628). One thing that will help though is if you can give a detailed explanation on what you did to trigger it, otherwise I may have a harder time fixing it.
Q: THIS LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHAT I SAW BEFORE, WHAT THE HELL HAVE YOU DONE?!
A: This game went through many iterations, so now the old videos of this game are now outdated.
Q: Did anyone help you to make the game?
A: Apart from feedback regarding playtesting, sprites and concepts, no. Almost all of the work was done by me.
Q: Is this game tested properly?
A: All of the attacks have been tested by my playtesters and myself. Balance was adjusted accordingly.
Q: What engine does this use?
A: I'm using my own Undertale Engine, which I made in Game Maker Studio 2. The engine is public, you can download it from my GitHub page: https://github.com/SilsRepositories/UT-CodeSnippets
TAGS:
#undertale #horror #action #rpg #fangame
Fantasy Violence
Animated Bloodshed
Mild Language
Who's here from Merg?
V1.2.2 BUGFIX
Who's here from LiNX 4?
Regardless WHY IS THIS MY MOST POPULAR GAME I HAVE BETTER THINGS YOU COULD BE PLAYING XD
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1Name change! This is what the reboot will officially be called.
Version 3 is underway!
josh is the mastermind behind these new sprites, which won't be revealed yet for obvious reasons
