18 days ago

Finally speaking about the community.


I'm assuming if you've read this you've already seen at least something about the community in recent days. Let me just say, I've known for a while that the community can be toxic, hell I've experienced a lot of just how bad this community can be. Harassed to the point of leaving several times and having suicidal thoughts. This is not me trying to receive sympathy, but me acknowledging that I know the community can be bad. Last month on the 11th I made a decently long statement myself about the state of the community and how we need to be much nicer and positive. Unfortunately, things didn't really change too much.

Now, after the demo for q.e.d. has dropped, the FNaFb developers have decided to take down the original games along with q.e.d. In a post, it was explained this was because of the negative reception to these games... and I personally think that this was an bit of a overreaction. I acknowledge that there is definitely a sizable group in the community who share a dislike for the original games, but I feel the majority love or at least appreciate the games for what they are.

I agree with the post that developers in the community have been treated poorly. Again, this is something I can personally attest to with my games being torn to shreds in the past. This is something me and the rest of the Gamejolt sever staff are trying to put a stop to with new rules and increased moderation.

One thing I very much dislike about the post is the mischaracterization of Ennard's Valiant Expedition developer @Ashy202 . In the post there are several of Ashton's worst moments put on prominent display, with both quotes being something Ashton had personally apologized for prior to the post being made. In a post they made, they acknowledged being egotistical in the past and apologized for it.

In the post made by the FNaFb developers they mention EVE a few more times. They claim users "-have received endless amounts of harassment and even death threats for disliking EVE." While I can definitely believe that people have been harassed for such a stupid reason, I cannot recall anyone receiving literal death threats.

Later on in the post they also mention things like the reviews, the overly large focus on "quality". As mentioned previously, this is something that me and the rest of staff are working on. We've removed the review channel from the Discord server, and it will be removed from the Gamejolt community as well. With the new rules imposed, and tighter moderation, harassment over quality should also disappear.

I personally have a lot of issues with the post, but most of which are personal and I don't think belong in this post. I highly advise you read it yourself to get your own opinion.


While I'm here I'd like to take the time to also deconstruct the post made by @StardustSpeedster .

Stardust also mentions that Typo made a comment saying they were going to kill them, which was very clearly a joke in that context. I'm not defending it, but it's clear it was not a legitimate threat to you.

They also wrongfully state that, "The mod team only JUST NOW IMPLIMENTED A WARNING AND BAN SYSTEM." This is just not true, we have given out warnings and bans several times in the past to users who deserved them. I assume this was a misunderstanding of the fact we just implemented a "warning" role in the server, and warnings are much stricter.

Going forward, I do agree with most things you said. I am sorry for the treatment you've received. I cannot remember, but hell I probably even contributed to that. I'll be the first to admit dogpiling is a huge issue on the server. I'm genuinely sorry that you felt anxious about making a FNaFb project, that is unacceptable on the community's part.


This post is not meant to be malicious or disrespectful to anyone I mentioned. Both posts I discussed made plenty of perfectly valid complaints that should be listened to.

I know several times in this post I've mentioned the rest of the Gamejolt server staff, but these are largely my own thoughts and views, so please do not misinterpret some of my opinions in this post as being the same opinions shared by all of the staff.

I created the Gamejolt Community Discord Server because Banter was such a hellhole. Unfortunately, things have gotten just about to where they were before. I do think there is definitely hope, and I can even maybe see the light at the end of the tunnel. This community means a lot to me. I've made so many close friendships in it, and I would hate for this community to become known for toxicity.



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